tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post965430945372404392..comments2010-01-18T14:37:07.350-08:00Comments on THE FORTEAN CRITIC: Those Elusive Phantom ClownsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-57196681978294436672008-11-20T17:27:00.000-08:002008-11-20T17:27:00.000-08:00whats the Atlanta iceman?whats the Atlanta iceman?jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13520240442678240362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-68196740891886649772008-11-20T17:26:00.000-08:002008-11-20T17:26:00.000-08:00whats the Atlanta iceman?whats the Atlanta iceman?jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13520240442678240362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-45529785850750336052007-08-07T13:27:00.000-07:002007-08-07T13:27:00.000-07:00I agree with mabuse. I do not enjoy the use of th...I agree with mabuse. I do not enjoy the use of the word "expert" with anyone.<BR/><BR/>However, I am NOT pleased with misinformation being spread about me because I collaborate, contribute, and coauthor.<BR/><BR/>In 1975, Jerome Clark and I experimented with our thoughts regarding the overlap between Jungian psychology and various forms of unexplained phenomena then being discussed. The result was a book entitled <I>The Unidentified</I> (NY: Warner Books, 1975). Within that book, my coauthor wrote a chapter on fairies in which the Cottingley Fairies were referenced favorably. <BR/><BR/>Writing a book with someone is always a compromise of positions, and several statements such as they "resemble nothing so much as paper cutouts" were my additions in that otherwise Clark-written chapter. But I "wrote" the book with Clark, take the heat as well as the praise, and so I understand why someone would think I backed the Cottingley Fairies. If you read the book, however, closely, you will find Clark is talking more about the experience than the photos.<BR/><BR/>Clark and Coleman quickly rejected the Jungian stance and things like the Cottingley hoax (which was unmasked in 1982). In several writings since then, Clark has discussed the Cottingley hoax. In our recent re-issue of <I>The Unidentified</I> (NY: Anomalist Books, 2006), he settled the issue when he used the word "preposterous" in the introduction.<BR/><BR/>As to complaints about Cryptomundo, again, the comment maker is confused. I am a blogger, a contributor there, and not the one that "runs" it. What people do to keep their free sites alive, via ads, may be disagreeable to people, but then they can make choices about going to watch television or seeing a movie, I guess, which have ads around the edges too.<BR/><BR/>Cryptomundo has always been more than just about Bigfoot. In recent weeks, for example, I posted items on mermaids, a possible new mammal, mountain lions, Mothman, and more.<BR/><BR/>To each their own, but as to phantom clowns, while no expert, I coined the term, studied the subject for a quarter of a century, and do have a degree in psychiatric social work with a specific concentration in child welfare. <BR/><BR/>I was surprised to see that this magazine had turned to a skeptic, once again, instead of Fortean, to write such a piece. As far as the author of the <I>Fortean Times</I> article, his level of scholarship on this matter was sorely lacking, with regard to bringing in Stephen King's <I>It</I> into this matter once again.Loren Colemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10705306131201565523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-35675341123671338912007-08-04T05:55:00.000-07:002007-08-04T05:55:00.000-07:00Hi Brian,I just happen to have my Evil Clown file ...Hi Brian,<BR/><BR/>I just happen to have my Evil Clown file out and can give you some citations.<BR/><BR/>The Independent (London) reports child-snatching clowns in Honduras on Nov. 5, 1995 and there's a small article in The News-Frederick MD (Nov. 2, 1995). There were also panics in Guatamala and Mexico at the same time (New Statesman & Society: 12/8/95. V.8, issue 382, p.39).<BR/><BR/>Also, try googling "clowns" and "Oude Pekela" for information about the Netherlands.Bi-Colored-Python-Rock-Snakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13903525825231423855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-62370019047020084362007-08-04T03:22:00.000-07:002007-08-04T03:22:00.000-07:00hi Theo,Very interesting blog re Phantom Clowns, d...hi Theo,<BR/><BR/>Very interesting blog re Phantom Clowns, do you have more info on the flaps in the Netherlands and Honduras? I'm coming up dry doing Google searches.<BR/><BR/>In re to the previous poster, unless I'm missing something, Loren Coleman never supported the Cottingly Fairy photos as being genuine, so I'm not sure where you got that, and he has done much more to advance study in the field than most researchers still alive today, so lets give credit where credit is due and leave the badmouthing for the Biscardis and Beckjords of the world.Brian Gauglerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15148967757511636620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-53470345356118169242007-08-04T02:58:00.000-07:002007-08-04T02:58:00.000-07:00Loren Coleman is your expert? The same guy who sup...Loren Coleman is your expert? The same guy who supported the reality of the proven fake Cottingley fairies? The same guy who runs a blog weighed down with clickthru advertising, about cryptozoology but in reality focuses only on Bigfoot, which survives by presenting every hair-brained rumour & unsupported speculation that comes along? Please come up with a better 'expert'.C. Conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014637921624132745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-669590370694310610.post-16128642871031471312007-08-03T18:17:00.000-07:002007-08-03T18:17:00.000-07:00I have been a long time resident of the Atlanta me...I have been a long time resident of the Atlanta metro area and I don't believe I have ever heard of the "Atlanta Iceman." Could you pint me to some information on this cultural boogie man?<BR/><BR/>As I recall, Poltergeist was released in 1982 and fetaured a scary clown doll scene in the children's room, so the idea that the bad clowns will get you had obviously already reached Hollywood by then, which ties in very well with your timelines.BFilmFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05771363098895738608noreply@blogger.com